09/07/2026
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Before I start I just want to say for those of you that don’t know me please message me directly with questions or concerns
For those of you that do know me and our rabbits please leave a comment after reading. Thank you in advance
This is an x-ray of a Californian doe of my daughters that I sold with a spinal condition that I am extremely upset that I missed it but things happen, I did, and here we are.
I sold this doe to Phoenix Wilder. She is now starting her journey of trying to bad mouth me with untrue statements and missing facts. Slander and defamation and all that come to mind but for now I just want to shut it down from the start as I have nothing to hide
(One of her comments will be posted in my comments for reference)
A little background:
This doe is 1 year old and had just weaned her first litter of 10 babies a few weeks ago where she was totally fine and hopping around in a 10x10 foot stall with them. She was also shown as a Jr with no issues detected. We then weaned her babies on July 24th and she was put back in her cage (just fine) where she has been since this incident.
Timeline and facts:
1. Sold on Tuesday September 1- yes she was underweight and out of condition but i chalked it off to 10 babies taking it out of her ,which happens with large litters, and relayed that. During this time i was getting phone calls, getting cages delivered , getting distracted and yes i missed the spine issue.
However, when she left I went and checked when the babies were actually weaned . Time goes so fast and it had been longer then I had thought so
Within 2-3 minutes of her leaving I was on the phone with her explaining it had been longer then I thought and I was not comfortable with her current condition and said I would feel better if she turned around and brought her back so that could see what was going on.
She said she wanted to take her and if she was not back in condition in a month we could talk. I said are your sure , expressed again my concerns and she said YES.
Later that night she sent a pic of her out in her yard said she had not ate or drank at that point. I mentioned it could be stress from travel and to give a water bowl instead of bottle.
2. Wednesday September 2 -she messaged saying she was still not eating or drinking she expressed concerns of her not being show quality. I expressed not at the moment but when she got back into condition. She was shown as a jr and did well
Mentioned my son could meet her on Friday to pick her up if she was not happy with her and we had a very promising younger doe if she was interested
She then sent another message the same day saying she could barely walk. “WHAT”!! Was my response I said I can leave in an hour and head your way and pick her up (2 hour drive). Sent a few of these as i would need to leave soon but no response so I called her. Said I could head her way right away and pick her up and take her to my vet. Her exact words were
“NO MADAM!!!! You will not be getting this rabbit back.” Followed by a bunch of rude and accusing comments and a hang up
3. Thursday September 3- 48 hours after having rabbit. Sends a message she is in the emergency room
Next message said “Let’s discuss bill!!!”
I asked to see the vet report
Got no vet report just copy of the bill followed by demand of payment
Asked again for vet report
She sent demand for payment and x-ray and still have not seen vet report
Responses to her accusations:
1. The bill - I asked her to bring the rabbit back immediately after she left and she said no. I wanted to drive to her house and pick her up and take to my vet and she said Absolutely NO!!!
Enough said
2. Saying she has a severe spinal deformity- interesting since that would be hereditary and not man made as she was accusing me of harming her. And can show up at any stage of life so…
3. The skin condition she said she has is a dime size partial bald spot behind her ears only
4. She was dehydrated- she had her for 48 hours before going to a vet? She kept her outside and we had her inside with a fan. We all know how hot it has been
5. She also had sore hocks which she did not mention in the comment below but hearing she did elsewhere. Unfortunately sore hocks can happen to any rabbit with a wire bottom cage and Expecially with large breed rabbits because that is a lot of weight. Yes we have cage Matt’s in there, which she is denying seeing, but they are there and it can still happen. We put blue kote on if it happens. She seen where it was treated before because her fur was purple and I treated again while she was holding her before she left. It’s the best we can do as we do not have the luxury of keeping them in the yard on the soft ground with all the predators.
If you are still reading after all this just know I am a very honest, ethical, trustworthy and take pride in our rabbits and what we have accomplished. We strive to raise healthy, happy, quality rabbits to the SOP.
Sometimes life gets in the way and things are missed
I owned it, tried to fix it, and she said NO
Just pay my bill !!!
References in comments